2016年10月5日水曜日

BeasTV! DaigOnuki2016!

https://www.twitch.tv/daigothebeastv/v/93115827

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp0c5GI09G0

Disclaimer: This is not literal translation but summary of points raised in their talk. Due to the limitation of time and my own translation skills, I am NOT able to translate everything. I'm just typing away what I think is interesting from the show. This summary is currently very unfinished, but I will keep adding stuff and refining it when I find time. Thank you for your support! :D

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Daigo in UK
Daigo: "I played against Onuki in a tournament the first time in 11 years. And... that's it for UK. There was nothing else special lol. There was? Food? Food was very UK-ish. ... There were so many tournaments going on lately so I don't remember things very well."

*Daigo talked a little bit about Twitch Con*

Xiao Hai's win
Daigo: "So Xiao Hai won. I think he is the strongest player as of now. I thought so when I played him in the league in Chaina. He was so strong. I have been thinking he is the strongest. His win this time around confirmed my thought. "
"I think Cammy is strong but not the highest tier. So he plays very well for the win. I think if we had TOPANGA league now he would win at this time. His play was that impressive. ... He has true confidence. It's not bluffing or anything. I can see that he really knows his own strength. ... But I think SFV's system works better for him. In SFIV the environment around players was really a crucial factor. You really need a huge amount of knowledge of the game. It was not popular in China so it was very hard for him, of course. SFV on the other hand is very simple in a good way like old games. So your environment was not too important. The event in the US made me think that. But since the league in China I was telling my friends that Xiao Hai might be the strongest. They were not sure to agree though. Well, I don't really know. There may be some characters he is weak to and did not face in a tournament. But my impression is he is the best right now."
"Another thing, Infiltration came back but he lost pretty early. It looks like player balance is changing a lot between the first half and the second half of the year. You know, ESL is not everything, but Infiltration didn't even make such mistakes in the first half. I think everybody is leveling up a lot. It's getting more interesting. It's kind of boring if it's only one player who wins every time. "

Daigo is going to SEAM, Europe, Canada Cup, 5G.

Daigo is the busiest right now since he became a professional gamer. He will also be on TV between tournaments.

*Onuki appears on the show at this timing.*

*The theme of this talk is to criticize Onuki's play from Daigo's point of view as a senpai professional gamer.*

O: yeah you are my senpai as a pro. We used to play a lot for fun tho.

*What Daigo wants to do is to teach people, including Onuki, how to use training mode.*

D: You know the time you played fighting gamese seriously back in the time, there were no training mode.
O: Yeah I just practiced a lot against CPU at arcades.
D: That just means people in Tokyo had a huge advantage and you get stronger if you are good at figure things out in fighting against people. But nowadays it is very important to have good traing-mode skills. From my view point, Onuki is lacking such skills because he didn't have enough experience in this era of fighting game. So I think you should gain such skills and implement them at a tournament and such.
O: I see. I wanna thank you. Actually, when I use training mode, it's just like upgrade version of old-time training mode. I only play online, find something I don't understand, see frame date, find out what is + and what is -, think of what to do, and take a note like September X-th Bison's blah blah move blah blah. Take a note like that everyday, that's it. So I think Daigo is right when he said I don't have good training-mode skills. All I do isn't much different from what I used to do back then. I'm very interested. I wonder how other people do. I usually don't have a chance to see.
...
D: So I have particular things in mind but I wanna provide what you can take home with you and do it yourself, so that viewers can see what to do and learn from it. We can all get better together. It's like kill three birds with one stone.
...
O: Yeah. I think there are many people who picked up Street Fighter again from SFV like I did. Such people like me don't know how to use training mode properly. ... I used to think I can beat that guy when I play it by ear so that's enough. Now I think I am only doing the least but I'm not doing much. If I can learn more things here, that makes me happy.
D: Well, I don't know how to play against Chun Li so...
O: LOL
D: I think some viewers know more about Chun Li than us, so we can pick things up from the chat as well. They can teach us too. I hope.

Daigo's critique on Onuki Chun Li (1): Too many Hail Mary EX spinning bird kicks.
Onuki: Really? I don't think I do a lot of Hail Mary EX SBKs 'cause in this game you get crush countered. I wanna see what the chat says about this.
*The chat say he does it a lot.*
Daigo: Okay I'm not saying you should never do it. It is one option. But from my point of view, I think you do it when you don't need to. So for example, in your battle with Will2Pack, you know you had a huge life lead but you lost because you did the EX SBK. The reason why I'm saying this is, in SFV random DP is harder to land than other games. It's because you walk back to make the opponent's throw whiff. Like in SFII the opponent's options are low or throw. DP is then a good option to counter them. But in SFV, a lot of times your opponent's options are throw or walk back. You can also block a wake up jab by walking backwards.
O: Delayed throw is another option, too.
D: That's right. So wake-up DPs doesn't have a good chance.
O: Have you noticed my tendency at the UK tournament?
D: No. I noticed that before. In addition, Chun Li is the best character. You don't need a rondom EX SBK to win. If it's a weak character, you could say "random DP is my only option to win." as you might have heard a lot back in the time. EX SBK is a good option to have but I would rather win without it.
O: You can save the meter, too.
D: Right. When I see other Chun Li like MOV and GO1, they don't use random EX SPD as many as you do, as if they were sending a message saying Chun-Li doesn't need it.

Daigo's critique on Onuki Chun Li (2): Pressing too much.
O: I admit. I think you're right on this one. I really like to go forward.
D: I know lol
O: You like to walk backwards, right?
D: You think so?
O: Yeah. When I see somebody walk backward like you do, I really wanna just go in to kill. But yeah I hear you.
D: Chun Li is good at offence. She has a fireball but you don't need to rely on it. Plus this game doesn't have chip KO so you need to go in to finish the game at some point anyway. So I think going forward is a good thing to do but ... how can I put this? ... I think there are things you need to do before starting your offence. Well, ok, let me say this now. this is something you used to say from the other side. You were saying "That guy just comes in like crazy so I just need to do easy defense," or same for Hail Mary, like you were saying "He does random DP at some point, so I just need to wait for it." I remember you used to say these things when he made a team for SBO-Togeki. I said "Isn't that guys strong?" then you said "No. he just dives in a lot. Just let him die." That made me feel confident like "Oh. I see. Just let him die. Thanks. I trust you. What about that guy?" "Oh he does random DP. Wait for it." You know, I try to listen to the people who win a lot for a certain game at that moment. They say things like this. "There is no problem. They just press a lot or random DP. Just let them die." People who win a lot have such confidence like "I don't lose if I play as usual." Now I'm just telling you about things you used to tell me about KSK.
D: LOL. Am I pressing that much? But I still have the same thought when I play like "All this character does is to get in" like Laura. I still think that way but I make such mistakes without knowing. You know, the tournaments we used to go in the past, it's all Japanese. I knew all the players. I could say "this guy plays this way, that guy plays that way." I had such knowledge about the players. But nowadays, you have to play with foreign players. I don't know what they would do. It's scary. It's different now. I don't feel as confident as much in a tournament. Foreign players are not easy to read.
D: But we are all human beings. You don't need to be scared that much. But I understand. I used to think foreign players are scary. They don't play the same way we do.
O: Don't forget I'm a first grader as a pro.
D: I understand.
O: Yeah. But you're just telling foreign players are all like KSK right?
D: Yeah. You can put it that way.
O: Yeah. Foreign players are KSK.
D: Yeah. KSK.
O: Yeah. Think of them as KSK. All the rest will come together. They're just gonna jump in at some point #scoff
D: Yeah. Well, you don't really know if they're gonna jump in like KSK. But the point is, you don't need to be like KSK yourself.
O: Yeah. No way. But you're right. I could have been like KSK.
D: Yeah. I was thinking so.
O: Right. I used to enter a tournament with so much confidence, but now I feel more like a challenger. I used to be the one who does criticize a lot when I see somebody press hard despite their life lead. Maybe I am making the same mistake at a tournament.
D: I see you do a lot.
O: It's because I get nervous and feel scared of foreign players.

Daigo's critique on Onuki Chun Li (3): Using non-max damage combo
D: This is what my friend Chun Li player told me.
O: Well, sometimes I do light > light > low forward > SBK when I can do light > midium > low forward. It only works against certain characters so...
D: I mean, what I heard is when you fought against a Ryu player at ESL, he missed punishing your CA right?
O: Yeah that happened.
D: So in that game, your punish his DP was not good enough and when he got stunned your combo was not the best one, as I heard
O: ... I did my research...
D: Right. I mean, I don't really know about Chun Li's combo so...
O: LOLOL
D: The chat is saying your combo is not the best.
O: Do they really main Chun Li?
D: They are saying your stun combo is not weak.
O: Really? lol
D: Anyway, overall, I think your knowledge of the game is lacking.
O: I think that's right.
D: So because you don't know enough, I feel nervous and get quick to get in. Like, you don't know what the opponent's options are, so you think you need to KO them fast.
O: That's so true. It's such a common thing in fighting game.
D: Yeah you just feel the need to finish the game.
O: Yeah. Like, kill them before they kill you.
D: Like, the best defense is offence. So here is what I recommend to you. This year CPT is about to end. Ideally you want to win a premier event and qualify for Capcom Cup, but honestly I think your chance is small. So I think it is more important for you to focus on improving your game in a long run. So I recommend you not finish your game so fast against character you feel you don't know much about. Like, if you play the game 99 seconds, you get more understanding of the match-up and the character's options. I'm not telling you to play like a turtle, but you need more knowledge so that you can feel comfortable in any situation. You should need more knowledge of all the characters and any situation. What I'mt talking about is not just for defense. When you're doing offense, you could go like "Wait, he got an answer to my this attack. What should I do?" You need an immediate answer to that. I think your answers are limited. For example, I know you do instant air lightening kick when you think your opponents tries to tech your throw. Anybody would do that. But when your walk-up or dash-forward is punished by the opponent, I don't think you have a lot of options to that situation. I mean the very clear alternative ideas to any situation.. It's like you play as you feel and go like "hmm my so and so is punished like this. What should I do?"
...

*Onuki started playing online.*

Daigo pointed out Onuki should not have used this super and explains why.
D: In this game, KO with super is the best way to end a round. It's because you don't have to worry about landing the last hit where you can't chip anymore. Plus, when you land a super you are giving them V-trigger meter, so if your super don't kill them your opponent will be more damaging. That's risky. So you don't wanna use a super if it doesn't KO. Exception to that is when their V-trigger meter is full. For example, if Nash can use V-trigger twice in a round, his strength is much higher than otherwise. So if his V-trigger meter is full and he throws a sonic boom, then you landing a super is more valuable 'cause he can only use V-trigger once in that round for sure. In the last game, you landed the super when his V-meter was only half way. He used V-trigger immediately to get out of the corner.
O: Hmm how about this? He was throwing a lot of fireballs like saying "you can't go through?" I felt like I needed to punish by the super. Isn't it a good thing to do?
D: I understand. I try that strategy too. But I get a higher winning rate if I don't use a super that way.
O: So what do you do against such sonic booms?
D: Hmm just be patient and wait for the situation I can use a super better way. They don't throw fireballs that much anyway. And hey, it'd be the same situation they can throw fireballs after you land a super.
O: Ah. That may be right if it's Nash. I see. Patience. I can also use the threat of having my super ready without even using the super just to scare them and walk forward. I see.
D: You can even try jump in and combo if they throw too many fireballs. So my impression of you is you use your meter too much. When you play against Chun, the super-worst scenario is to lose a round by her crouching strong into V-trigger into super. That move is hella strong. So as a Chun player, you should  try to end it that way. Well, I'm not saying you should never use your meter. Chun needs to use meter, tho.

Daigo pointed out that Onuki uses air-lightening kick.
D: It goes the same way as overhead. Some people punish it but others don't. It's also effective online. You don't get to see or hear anything like offline. It works online but good players can punish it.
O: It is true that I use the move when I realize they don't punish it. I see what they do to it first and if they don't punish it, I use it a lot. It's my old habit.
D: You wanna improve your skill when you play online. Without using it, you can learn how to fight without it. Suppose the players with 10000LP don't punish it. If you just keep beating them using the move, you don't get to learn anything from playing against such players.
...
O: To be a bit extreme, I don't think you need air-lightening kick at all. If I mained Chun Li, I'd try to play without it.
D: Wow. Really?
O: Yeah why not, cause you can fight without it. Fast walk speed, good normals, has a fireball. Dash forward, use a light attack, throw-or-low mix up etc etc. I don't think you need air-lightening kick. The game developers didn't mean it to be a thing.

Daigo argues Onuki shouldn't have used this EX fireball in the stun combo.
D: (while Onuki finishes the round) oh... that's so pointless!
O: What. Why. What. What are you talking about?
D: How much more does it get by that EX?
O: It does so much more. It goes even more than raw super. Can you see? You, sensei, your character's combo is too damaging, you know?
D: Ok ok. I mean I didn't know ok. ... But ok, alright, can I tell you one thing? Isn't it better not to use the EX for less damage but keep the super? He couldn't throw a sonic boom then? I think it gets easier to win like that.
O: I see. That may be right. I just thought I could win by one mix-up after the combo with EX and I didn't need the super. Like, if the EX combo had left him with 40% life, I wouldn't have used the EX. I only use EX only when I can kill the guy with the following mix-up.
D: Hmm in fact, I think you should use the meter IF it leaves 40%. Look, the last bit amount of life, like 100, I think it was like 50. The situation where you only have 50 life is the most economical situation.
O: Because you can't chip to death.
D: Can't chip to death. Chun Li doesn't have a fast long range over-head. She only has point blank over-head. She is one of the characters who have hard time to finish a round. You need to get in the point-blank range. That's crucial thing to think about. In the last game, he had V-trigger meter. Suppose he uses that. Then he loses the way to avoid death by chip. So you wanna keep the super. But since you used the EX, your good options to kill were the point-blank overhead or throw. Without such options, you have hard time to finish him. If you had the super stored, you could chip him to death, or he couldn't throw a sonic boom so just kill him by footsies. I'd get more options to finish.
O: This is very interesting. It's different from other fighting games.
D: So it's huge this game doesn't have chip death. I think you should save the super instead and go for the chip kill. That's more... stylish.
O: LOL
D: I would have saved it.
O: I see. I just thought I could kill him by the following mix-up, the headstomp overhead or throw.
D: Maybe you're right. I'm just saying it's something to think about.
O: Yeah. I understand. I will take a note on this for sure when I go home.



https://youtu.be/Rp0c5GI09G0?t=3866

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2016年1月9日土曜日

【編集中】Tuesday: The 2015 UCTV Awards!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5WdxvwFIRg

2015年を振り返るUltraChenTV アワード。

★ベストプレイヤー賞(偶然にも同じプレイヤーを選んだ2人)
3位:かずのこ。カプコンカップで優勝したかずのこ。「一位じゃないのは、かつてのインフィルトレーションやももちほど圧倒的な勢いがあったわけじゃなかったから。一位と二位のプレイヤーは他を圧倒しているしね」とJC。UDも全く同じ考え。UD「他にも選びたいプレイヤーがたくさんいて悩んだけど、かずのこはカプコンカップとCEO で優勝した他にも、EVO とカナダカップで9位だったり、トッププレイヤーがたくさんいる大会でTop 4に何度も入ったよ」
2位:Sonic Fox。キラーインスティンクトのメジャー大会では無敗。MKXの大会では常に4位以上。スカルガールズの大会では常に2位以上。DOA でも好成績。近年、複数のゲームをプレイするプレイヤーは少なくなっている中でSonic Fox は例外的に多くのゲームで、しかも一年を通してトップに君臨している。賞金総額でもかずのこに引けをとらない。
1位:Zero。「一位はどう考えてもZero 意外にありえない」とUD。JC「Zero が今年出場したスマブラの大会は全部で54あるんだけど、その中で何回優勝したと思う?53回さ」。UD「優勝しなかった時は何位だったの?(訳知り顔)」。JC「2位だよ」。UD「2位だね。スマブラのプレイヤー層は決して少なくないことを考えると、一人のプレイヤーが1つのゲームでここまで勝ちまくるなんて未だかつてないことだよね。かつてはジャスティンがマヴカプ2で勝ちまくってた時代があったけど、大会の数もプレイヤー層も今のスマブラよりずっと少なかったしね」

★ベストマッチ賞
UltraDavid の選ぶベスト3
3位:カナダカップ ときど対ふーど
2位:EVO MKX Sonicfox vs Foxy Grandpa
1位:EVO ウル4 ももち vs ゲーマービー

James Chen の選ぶベスト3
3位:EVO KI TOP 8 Sleep vs My God
2位:カプコンカップ、Xian vs Keoma
1位:EVO ウル4 ももち vs ゲーマービー




【編集中】


2015年11月26日木曜日

Daigo comes to Katchitagari TV 11/24/15

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Disclaimer: This is not literal translation but summary of points raised in their talk. Due to the limitation of time and my own translation skill, I am NOT able to translate everything. I'm just typing away what I think is interesting from the show, in which Daigo, Bonchan, and Fuudo talked about how TOPANGA A League went. This summary is currently very unfinished, but I will keep adding stuff and refining it when I find time.

http://www.twitch.tv/topangatv/v/27439890

Daigo would have been 5th place if he had lost the last match with Momochi.

★About the new volume of the manga series
Daigo came to Kachitagari TV to announce the vol.3 of the manga series "Umehara - Fighting Gamers"
Daigo: Are we gonna talk about it first? Yeah that would make more money."

The vol.3 is about Daigo and SF2 where as the previous volumes were about SF Alpha and Vampire Savior. He has been looking forward to releasing this volume.

They sell the manga series even in the convenience store just under his apartment, all the volumes, without knowing he lives above them?
Fuudo: "I think they know."
D: "No. They have no idea. There was this time TOPANGA League, I went down there to buy tea wearing MadCatz shirt during. They didn't notice me at all." LOL
F: "Why don't you buy the vol.3 in the store?"
D: "Yeah wearing a MadCatz shirt lol"


[★They talked about Daigo's experience of Toushin Gekitotsu]

★About TOPANGA A League
He was happy that he won, of course, but what Daigo is really happy about was that the last match was the deciding match. As a result of all the players trying their hardest to win, the event itself became so successful. All the players played an important roll. Each did their own job they were supposed to do. The skill level of USF4 is getting really highest and the last TOPANGA had the best of the best players there. He was really happy about that's how the event ended.
Daigo: "I won by 3 wins and 2 loses. Some may say that sounds terrible but I am the most happiest than ever. Everybody played their highest level and tried their hardest to win and I finished the run at the end. It felt really good."

They all agreed the MVP was Nemo.
Bonchan: "Especially, Kazunoko match. The character match up was so hard, but his player skill overcame the disadvantage, against none other than Kazunoko! Both players have unique styles and are amazing at thinking outside of the box. It's incredible it was Nemo who played better than Kazunoko during the match. It was so impressive.

Bonchan's Fist Day
Bonchan beat Kazunoko 7-5. But he felt he played so bad. It's just he had one game advantage and had character advantage. Even right when the match ended, he couldn't stand up because he was upset about how bad he was playing. "I was telling myself, it's bad, so bad, you're playing so bad. I didn't know what to do." He felt he was lucky it was the only game he had to play on the first game. If there had been another game, he could not have got over the feeling and probably kept playing bad

Dago's Preparation Distribution
90% Ken
7% Rolento
2.5% Yun
0.5% Seth
0% Sagat lol
Because the rule said head to head has the highest priority, he had to beat the player who are the most likely to win.
Bonchan and Daigo helped each other to study Ken matchup. They both had to beat Ken so they shared their interest. Their own Ken leveled up so much. "It's like to the level that we could main Ken lol."
(Daigo was thinking before the league) Dashio was the hardest to prepare for. Amount of information about Dashio was the most limited. He just heard Dashio was bad against Kazunoko. And the character is Seth, so no matter what he prepared, if Dashio randomly goes "I will command throw a lot today." there's nothing he could do. He could lose if it was heavily read base game. So Daigo didn't wanna spend so much of his time time to prepare for Dashio. Daigo could plan better against other players, Dashio should be the last in line.
(Daigo was thinking before the league) NEMO and Kazunoko had at least two players they would lose. NEMO would lose to Kazunoko and Momochi. Kazunoko would lose Bonchan and Momochi. "So I was not watching out for those who were likely to lose two games outside of my match. For that reason, I spent most of my time to plan against Momochi, who could win all games." As a matter of fact, Momoch only lost to Daigo and Bonchan, the only players who seriously prepared against him. Daigo was right in that regard.
"You may ask why I spent more time for Rolento over Yun. That's because there was somebody that I could conveniently play against, who plays Rolento, but there was no Yun player. Who? It's Mago. His Rolento was pretty good so I played against him a lot. Plus, I had never studied the Rolento match up, so I thought it was a good time to fill in the blank."

Agaisnt Dashio
Daigo "It was his first day, first match. I think he was nervous and didn't play his best. It was lucky I played him at such timing." Fuudo agreed Dashio was not playing his best.

Agaisnt NEMO:
Daigo: "During the match with Nemo, the first thing I thought was Mago-san you suck. Well we all know  Mago's Rolento is very good but Nemo was totally at a different level. It's definitely the deference between a main character and a sub character. Honestly speaking, I was scoffing at what they call Nemo - TAITO Station's King? I thought the character without an invincible uppercut is impossible to win. Playing at arcade doesn't really help you so I shifted to playing on the console. So I was like, TAITO Station's King? Whatever. No. 1 in the BP ranking? Whatever. But he beat me in the pre-A league match. So I took it more seriously. I was still thinking Evil Ryu would beat Rolento if I studied the match up. But after the first day, my idea of Nemo and Rolento totally turned around. I'm like I'm sorry, Nemo. I'm sorry TAITO Station."
"I lost to him but it felt good in some way because he totally changed my ideas of USF4. It was so impressive and even shocking."
"All the other characters have invincible moves and fireballs except Yun. It seems like that's what you need in USF4 at the highest level. What does Rolento have? His fireball is like nothing and no invincible moves. Nemo has such a unique sense of the game. If it were not Nemo in the league, it would not have been as intense as it was. His game play was so good. His game score was 2 win and 3 loses but that's not the point. He might be salty but he played with Rolento. That's just impressive."
Bonchan: "He lost the two games on the last day, but we still talk about how impressive he was and we think he is the MVP. That's unbelievable. His play on the first two days was controlled the league."
Daigo: "I felt like we should say Nemo is the winner no matter what. That's how much I was impressed."
Bonchan: "If he had lost to Kazunoko 7-2 or something. it would be like 'yeah it's Rolento.' But he played so well. You and I were expecting Kazunoko to win the match easy. If Kazunoko didn't win, we were in trouble. I needed Kazunoko to win three games because that benefits me if I had the same score. The result was 10-9 Kazunoko."
Daigo: "I think Kazunoko played so well in there. If I were Kazunoko, I would not prepare anything for the Nemo match because it is an easy win, just like I don't prepare for Bon"
Bonchan: "You better do just a bit (-"-) "
Daigo: "I did a little bit for your Ryu. Anyway, if Kazunoko had lost to Nemo the league would have been broken. He must have thought Nemo wouldn't move like that. Nobody could blame Kazunoko even if he had lost, but he didn't give up and won. I was like 'yes, my plan's still working.' "

The second day
Bonchan vs Dashio
Bonchan: "The Seth matchup, you can't really prepare anything. The least you can do is to watch Dashio's match videos and pick up his habits. I watch TGS and other matches. What I did not expect was Dashio seriously studied the Sagat matchup. You know I lost to Poongko pretty badly at Singapore but when I watched Dashio videos I thought I could read him pretty well. So I was thinking, if he played like Poongko it'd would be hard. Well, Dashio's movement was so tight and intense. There was no loose end that there was before. "
Daigo: "That's not Dashio."
Bonchan: "It was not Dashio I knew. I was still trying but there were so many unexpected things going on that I could not play my best."
Daigo: "Well, retrospectively speaking, you would have won the league if you had beat Dashio. That's what I think was really awesome about the league this time. He had lost two games already but he was still taking the game seriously and played his role. That made such a great league. If he had have thrown it away, you would have won the league."
Bonchan: "I was thinking, if Daigo loses to anybody, it would be Kazunoko. Also Dashio or Nemo could make something happen. I knew Momochi was the target of Daigo, so he was not my hope. I was giving my hope to Nemo and Dashio, I mean Rolento and Seth."
Daigo: "It's full of hope lol."
Bonchan: "Or I could beat Daigo using Ryu. But I was hoping other guys gave Daigo two loses. Then the first day, Nemo beat Daigo. I was like 'Hey Kazunoko, it's your turn! Please Kazunoko!'"
Daigo: "You were being a bad boy."
Bonchan: "Of course. But I lost to Dashio. So my plan didn't go well."

Daigo vs Kazunoko
Daigo: "The Yun matchup. Before the league, I was playing against Bonchan's Yun and Mago's Yun. I - beat Yun of these guys but it was not like I bodied them. It was like 7-3 or something. When I saw how Kazunoko played on the first day, I was certain that I'd lose if I played the way I was playing. You ask why? Well, in my opinion, Evil Ryu has hard time dealing with Yun more than Ken and Sagat does because Evil Ryu's strength is weakened. I know Bonchan and Momochi play very well in the Yun match up, yet Kazunoko played so close to them on the first day. So I concluded that I'd lose if I played the way I was going to play maybe like 4-7 at best. So I wondered what I should do and decided to do a huge gamble. I wanted to find a way to beat Kazunoko Yun by playing a totally different way I had never played before. Why I needed to do such a gamble? It's because I lost to Nemo. I could not lose to Kaznoko by playing safe. I really needed to win by making a huge bet, hoping to make something happen by a tiny chance. Well I got bodied like that."

Daigo: "Well before the league, I knew that if I lose it's to Seth and Yun. So I was doing more preparation against Rolento. When I lost to Kazunoko, I thought my chance to win the league was gone. I was like 'Ah my winning record.' However, another theme I had this time was to show how much I prepared the Ken matchup, the one I spent 90% of my time for. I was still looking forward to playing the match on the last day."


Bonchan vs Momochi
Bonchan: This match was the best one.
Daigo: Well you say so because you won.
Bonchan: It’s not that. Of course I’m happy that I won. But there were so many things to it. I was losing to Momochi before, but I beat him at Hyakkishu Cup and Topanga online qualifier. I was like ‘I took my revenge. It’s your turn, Momochi.’ I would have been shocked if he hadn’t have changed the way he played. I would’ve been like ‘I thought I make you understand but it was not enough?’”
Daigo: “That’s the way you are. It’s coming from our upbringing, so vulgar.”
Bonchan: “LOL no. Anyway, I felt like it was so convincing the last time that you had to do something about it. It was one of my themes that I had this year in the first place, that is, to catch up with Momochi. I did it when I played him last time. I wanted to do that for a long time this year. I really really showed him that I outplayed him. It was 3-0. That was completely convincing. I was like ‘what are you gonna do? You have to do something.’ So one change he made this this time, he used Ultra2 instead of UW. I was like ‘Ah Ultra2 huh. That I can understand.’”
Daigo: “Yeah we were playing Ken with each other. Then we realized there was something we were missing. We needed to seek out help from somebody. So summoned KichijojiKen. He helped us almost every day toward the end of our preparation days.
Bonchan: “I was playing the Ken matchup so much that it became easy to beat Daigo’s Ken. I was so confident in the matchup. Then KichiKen showed up. He was like ‘Hi. Thank you for letting me play with you.’ I was like ‘Thank you for coming but I might be too good at this.’ He then beat me in FT7. Twice. I was like ‘What whaaat? What’s the matter with me?’”
Daigo: “Yeah it was like one week before A League. You started meditating.”
Nyanshi: “When I came in the office that day, I saw Bonchan being very salty. I was like what’s going on?”
Bonchan: “Thanks to that defeat, I realized that I could lose in the matchup. That really helped me change my attitude. I was being arrogant when I beat Daigo’s Ken. Kichiken’s play was godlike. I opened my eyes. Thank you so much, Kichiken.”
Fuudo: “He slapped your face.’”
Bonchan: “Back to the main story. Momochi chose Ultra2. I was like ‘Ah okay that way. That way can be painful for ya.’”
Daigo: “We actually talking about it. We said UW is not the right choice. When I played Ken for your practice, I had to use UW because Momochi uses it. I was thinking it’s not right. I was like ‘why the fuck do I have to use UW? My opponent is has fucking 1050 like. Fucking Ken is not damaging at all.’ When I saw Momochi choose U2, I came to think he seriously rethought about the matchup.”
Bonchan: “Momochi told me before the event that he prepared the most for the Sagat matchup. It felt so good. Like ‘hey you understand, dontya?’ Then the game started. His play was so different. His game plan and everything. At the after party, I told him that. He then told me that he evaluated the match up from scratch. That made me feel soooo goooood that I couldn’t stop drinking. So in the game, using U2 is actually difficult to play. It went 4-0. But he changed his game play more at that timing. He became so forward. It was new.”
Fuudo: “Looks like walking forward with U2 seems a very strong movement.”
Bonchan: “Yeah it’s very strong if you have a life lead. But it is difficult to have a life lead in the first place. That’s the playstyle he chose. I lost three games. It got 4-3. Well I was still thinking it must be hard for Momochi. The result was 7-4. I was happy that he spent so much time for me.”
Daigo: “One thing I really thought was he played very well even though he had nobody to help. People say KichijojiKen plays like as he feel like but as a matter of fact he changes his playstyle a lot during a set. When he lost a game, he always do something different in the next game. That’s a very important characteristic as a training partner. No matter how strong they are, it doesn’t add much to your learning if your opponents keep playing the same way they do all the time.”
Bonchan: “Yeah you can just figure out the opponent and that’s it.”
Daigo: “In FT7 it’s very important to have a skill to change your playstyle. I do change a lot. You must have so many ideas of how to fight againt Ken because of that. There is this. There is that. When he does this, you can do that. It was so obvious Bonchan had more cards to play than he did during the match. Every time he changed something during the match, I was like ‘hey we came up with that.’ It went like that all the way until the end. Bonchan must not have been surprised by anything he did.”
Bonchan: “Yeah. There was nothing that surprised me during the match. Well. It’s not like I spent 90% of my time but I prepared a lot for the Ken matchup. I used Ken a lot this past year. Not just Ken-Sagat. I played Ken vs many character. I understand Ken’s weakness very well. I broke the character into pieces completely.”
Daigo: “Yeah. Into very tiny pieces. We know the character in and out.”
Bonchan: “I am happy he seriously studied Sagat but it was too late. I have studied the character for two years.”

(Daigo and Bonchan have studied the Ken matchup for two years. Daigo had trouble against Ken. He was not able to beat KichijojiKen in FT7 at all. He was salty for that back then.)


The third day

Daigo vs Bonchan
Bonchan: “Third day, the first match, Daigo vs Bonchan. 7-1. What’s the second match?”
Daigo: “It was sooo easy.”
Nyanshi: “Is there anything to talk about? Other than Ryu or Sagat?”
Daigo: “Yeah, actually there was something we did the night before. After I got raped by Kazunoko, Bonchan and I got back to our training place. We had KichijoujiKen again. For the third day, I needed to practice the Ken matchup and maybe the Ryu matchup. KichiKen can play Ryu pretty well. So I asked him. But the problem was couldn’t show each other what we practiced in the Ryu-Evil Ryu match up. So we decided that I first used the room for certain hours and then Bonchan used it after.”
Bonchan: “It was the first time we used the place like that.”
Daigo: “So I first practiced with Kichiken. But I needed to see as many patterns as possible. So I asked even Bonchan to play with me as a Ken. That’s what’s really interesting about the league this time. Each of us was looking for our own benefits to the fullest by helping each other until the very last end. Here is what I told Bonchan. You and I were going to play each other on the third day. But you need me to beat Momochi in order for you to win the league. Then you should still help me tonight. In addition to that, as I said to Bonchan, you need to play your Ken seriously against my Evil Ryu. I think my preparation for the Ken matchup is complete. If you don’t give me some trouble in the matchup, I will spend all of my time for the Ryu matchup with KichiKen. It’s all upto your Ken. Then we did FT7. I beat his Ken 7-0. I was like ‘It’s too bad but I will only do the Ryu matchup.’ So that’s what happened the night before. On the third day, Bonchan asked me right before the match ‘which character do you think I will play?’ I prepared my match intending to beat your Ryu. But if I were you, I would use Sagat for many reasons, like you don’t wanna show your Ryu until some other time up against each other.”
Fuudo: “You don’t wanna show it in a FT7 set”
Daigo: “Yeah it’s a FT7. Also, I was like, ‘can you really beat me with Ryu while you got bodied with Ken? What’s so different?’ At the end of the day, what you really needed to do was to beat Nemo. At that point, my chance of winning the league was still so small. You could have lost to me with Sagat and still won the league. So that didn’t make any big deal.”
Bonchan: “Well, actually, like one week before the league, I realized Ryu is not that good against Evil Ryu. I used to think Ryu beats Evil Ryu but… “
Daigo: “I used to think Ryu is the best shoto against Evil Ryu, too. However, this may be a by-product of studying the Ken matchup so much. We understood shoto games so much that we realized how Evil Ryu could play against Ryu. I think we came to the same conclusion. I don’t know what your Ryu is like, but I could see Evil Ryu beat Ryu anyway.”

Bonchan: “I was gonn use Ryu for your Evil Ryu when I registered my character. But I realized it doesn’t work in the course of preparation. So I decided to use Sagat because I can play my best game with the character. I got bodied at the end but I can accept the defeat. ”


Momochi vs Nemo
Daigo: I was definitely the one who wanted Momochi to beat Nemo more than anybody in the world.
Fuudo: More than Choco?
Daigo: More than Choco. But hey you know what’s really interesting? The player I really wanted to win actually ended up being the one I needed to beat at the last match. That’s the best part of a round-robin event. I really think it’s fascinating. There was no match that was wasted. It’s like Mother Nature.
Bonchan: In the match before the league, Nemo beat Momochi. It looked like Momochi was having trouble against Nemo. … His jump short worked really well against Rolento. I thought Nemo normally would find a way to deal with it but he kept choosing to block it for some reason.
Fuudo: St. mp can’t antiair it, right?
Bonchan: It can’t. So you have to block it or find some ways to escape from it. In the close range Rolento has trouble. It’s even worse in the corner. There is no hope for Rolento. Momochi controlled the game like that. When Momochi tied the score, I lost my hope Nemo wins. … Momochi played very well.
Daigo: It’s always Momochi who rescues me from the bottom of despair. He is so patient.
Bonchan: It got 5-2 but that didn’t break his heart.


Bonchan vs Nemo
(Now that Momochi beat Nemo, Daigo’s chance of winning the league came to look much better but Bonchan’s chance to win was gone.)
Bonchan: At that point, all I wanted was to beat Nemo. It was my last match. If I had lost to Momochi, it would have been automatic victory for Momochi.
Daigo: It’d be lame as an event. I really thought it was very well-written like a story. We were helping each other for our own sake until the very last minute, and you dropped out of the race first. Then that could have been the point where we said alright we end our thing to help each other now. But Bonchan still looked like he was serious about his match. That was assuring to me.
Bonchan: To tell you the truth, I gave up on my Ryu against Daigo the night before. Instead, I spent so much time watching all of Nemo Rolento’s footages, not just Sagat matchup, all of his Rolento, like against Rokkun Seth and KitasenjuDJ. I noticed he tends to push a little too forward when he really wants to win the round. Also, I watched out really carefully for his EX Air Raid. You don’t lose to him if you don’t let it bother you. He’d lose his options to get it and his movement would be monotonic. All I needed was make no mistake. I just needed to punish his loose moves. That was how I felt when I got up against him.
Daigo: Actually, you were the one who got to watch his matches more than anybody before playing him. I think it’s really huge. You got to observe THAT Rolento who is really one of a kind because you were the last one to fight him. That was such a huge advantage for you.
Bonchan: Yeah. Like I watched his match against Kazunoko. I was so impressed by that. He is good. But I felt like it’d be alright. It also helped that I played him in Singapore CPTA Final. One thing I noticed from his play was he changed ultras a lot. He used to use Ultra2 against me but he picked Ultra1 at Singapore for the first time. He beat me then. So you think he’d keeps using Ultra one. BUT I knew he actually changed it during the set. So I watched footage in which he used both ultras so I can be ready for either ultra. That helped me play having an upper hand.
Daigo: You beat Nemo. That was like the peak for me. I was like good job Bonchan! I was confident for the last match against Momochi Ken.

Daigo vs Momochi
(This was the last match of the league. Whoever wins the match wins the league.)
Bonchan: At that point, I was confirmed to be the second place whoever won. But I knew how much you prepared for the Ken matchup. You spent a year for it. I was thinking you couldn’t lose for a joke. You even made a pre-match comment on the stage saying you only prepared for the Ken matchup. I was thinking what if you’d lose.
Daigo: At that point I felt like everything worked out for me so I must carry some risk myself in return. I couldn’t just say “I’ll do my best” or some shit. That’s why I said I put all of myself onto the last match. I just wanted to give something back to all the players who played their best and ended up helping me in the league.
Bonchan: That’s really good.
Daigo: I lost to Momochi in the last World League. I was playing the Ken matchup so much back then as welk. I then run to “Kichiken-saaaan.” I started using Ryu. Looked like Ryu worked for Ken. At Stunfest I used Ryu against him, but he then used Cordy. I was force to use Evil Ryu. At that time my understanding of shoto play was deep enough to beat Momochi with Evil even tho I did not study the Ken-Evil matchup. Then I was thinking, by the next time Momochi and I play each other, he would prepare for it. After that, there was EVO and I had Toshingekitotsu. I knew the next time we play was at TOPANGA. So I have been determined to beat Momochi at TOPANGA for such a long time. I played him every now and then like in the pre A League, which was just a throwaway match. You know I was preparing for the Ken match up. I really really wanted to show it. Bon, you were like “I prepared for Ken so much” really early. Because you showed it off, Momochi made himself ready for your Sagat right? I kept hiding myself all the time. I pretended like I knew nothing. I was like “ah you are too strong. I can never beat you x_x” I don’t know if he took it seriously but at least I didn’t beat him so he was not too worried.
Fuudo: It’s really hard to change your play especially when you’re winning.
Daigo: Right. In round-robin you don’t change if you’re winning. So I tried my hardest to stay low. Meanwhile, Bon was like “See my play against Ken? What do you think? :]” You showed it off so much. Well, you went overseas and showed your play a lot. I stopped going overseas so I never needed to show my play. It was very hard try not to hide myself because I wanted to win. I tried my hardest not to show my best but I was determined to do that. … so I was playing Bon’s Ken and KichiKen’s Ken. It was like 3 days before the league I got certain that I would win. Of course I felt like I could win for a long time but just 3 days before the league, I really got certain of the win. You know, after I got bodied by Kazunoko, Bon and I were talking, we might have done too much of our job for the league. We agreed that we should never let the person win who is the most likely to win. As an event, that’s the worst scenario.  That was Momochi this time who was the most likely to win. So Bon and I spent so much our resource to beat Momochi. I used 90 percent of my time to prepare for Ken. But the thing is, I was determined to beat Momochi this time. I felt like it was the most important thing for me, even more than winning the league. Bon won to Momochi so he did his job.
Bonchan: It was such a relief. I was like “I did it. I did it goooood. *sigh of relief*”
Daigo: Yeah. I thought my chance to win the league was gone but everything worked out for me. It was like … It was like … something invisible is doing their thing to make this happen. Things like this almost never happen.
Nyanshi: It was so lucky the last match was the most important one and you got to show your most prepared play in that one. You and Momochi had to play their best to win the league in the last match.
Daigo: That’s right. It was such an important match for both of us. Even if I lose, I can accept that. And you know? I thought it’s a fascinating human thing. You know, I played so much before the league for practice but my concentration during the match was at another level beyond the practice. The game looked so slow. Seriously. It was really slow.
Nyanshi: You whiff-punished Ken’s low forward.
Daigo: It felt heavy first. I wonder if I was being nervous but it usually gets faster when you’re nervous right? So I was focusing so much. I never felt the same way during the practice. My brain knew it was the time to show the best of my play on the main stage. So human brain is so amazing.
Fuudo: You don’t face the screen in the same way when you play casual.





[Under construction]

2015年11月11日水曜日

Tuesday S4 Ep39.2 SFV Hacks Dhalsim Canada Youmacon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qsl9cjAlIk

カナダカップ・ウル4の結果
・カプコンカップのプレミアイベント。開催地のトロントはカナダの中でも中心的な都市。素晴らしいイベントだった。
・「カナダカップが大きなイベントになったのはプレミアイベントに選ばれたから」という声もあるが、そもそも主催者のラプチーは今まで身銭を切って素晴らしいイベントを開催してきた。その功績がカプコンに認められたからこそ、カナダカップがプレミアイベントに選ばれたのだろう。
・アフターパーティーも大いに盛り上がった。
・普段は他の大会で見られないカナダのプレイヤーも大活躍した。
・Top 3 の戦いはウル4史上まれに見るレベルの高い戦いだった。とくにグランドファイナルのときど対ふーどの戦いは驚くべきものだった。
・ももち対ゲーマービーはEVO では接戦だったが、今回はももちが3-0で完勝、素晴らしい対応を見せた。
・Top 8 全体で考えても、地上戦のレベルの高さが目立っていた。「地上戦を学びたいプレイヤーはTop 8 を繰り返し見た方がいいよ。スト4は長らくセットプレイが強すぎるって言われてるけど、今回のTop 8 の戦いに関して言えばセットプレイより地上戦の実力が勝敗に出てると思う」とJC。「それにもう各キャラクターのセットプレイは十分に知れ渡ってるから、どのセットプレイに注意を払うべきかはお互いにわかってるんだよね。セットプレイの重要性は薄れてるんじゃないかな」とUD。
・JC「僕はときどのディフェンスのうまさに特に感銘をうけたよ。ときどは優勝後のインタビューで大きく喜びを表現してたよね。今までプレミア枠を持ってはいたけど優勝はしてなかったから、今回の優勝で堂々とカプコンカップに出られるって。ときどがカメラに向かって指さして『君のために優勝したんだ』って言ったときは感動したよ。」
・Jayce the Ace にとってはカプコンカップ出場をかけた最後のチャンスだったが叶わなかった。
・「ジャスティンがエレナを使ってることを退屈だっていう人もいるけど僕はすごく嬉しいよ。エレナはまさにジャスティンにピッタリのキャラだと思う。もう少しコンボ精度を上れば鬼に金棒だよ」。UD「僕はエレナ使いのDeFeetLee と一緒にジャスティンの試合を観てたんだ。彼はジャスティンのコンボ選択のミスやキャラ対の甘さを指摘してたよ。ジャスティンがその穴を埋めてくればかなり強くなるだろうね。それでなくても9位に入ったんだから」。JC「そもそもジャスティンはテクニックを重視のプレイヤーでもないしね」。UD「ジャスティンはスト3では春麗で移動投げを使わずに最強になってたぐらいだから」。JC「CVS2 でも難しいオリジナルコンボを使ってなかったよ」
・チーム戦では大活躍したストーム久保が本戦の予選プールで敗退したことに驚くJC。はげじんも期待されていたほど上位に入らなかったなど、多くの番狂わせが見られた。

2015年10月16日金曜日

Tuesday S4 Ep36.2 SFV Review and Tourney Recaps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu9y6CfjO8I

★SCR ウル4の結果
http://shoryuken.com/2015/10/11/socal-regionals-2015-day-1-streaming-live-from-ontario-california/
・優勝はボンちゃん。今までもランキング上位にいたボンちゃんにプレミア枠が与えられたため、ポイントによる枠が一つ増えた(プレミア枠外のランキングが繰り上がる)ことになる。UD「ボンちゃんは地上戦、対空、攻め、間合いどりなど全てにおいて素晴らしいプレイを見せたね。サガットっていうキャラを完全にマスターして不利なキャラでも不利を感じさせない戦い方をしてる」。JC「サガットは動きの遅いキャラなのにボンちゃんのサガットはまるで別人みたいな機動力を発揮するんだよね。コメンタリーでDavid も言ってたけど、ボンちゃんがカプコンカップに出なかったらそんなの間違ってるって思う。ボンちゃんは実に長い間スト4のトッププレイヤーとして君臨してるもんね」
・SCR のポイントによってSnakeEyezとシャオハイも本戦出場が確実になった。
・シャオハイ戦の最後の局面で無理に試合を決めようとしてゲージを使い果たし、そのまま自滅するように負けてしまったフィリピーノマン。相手が慌てていることを首尾よく察知して一気に勝敗を決めたシャオハイの眼力。JC「僕がイベントの後にフィリピーノマンと話したら、やっぱり『2ラウンド目に自信がなくなってあそこで無理に無理に勝とうとした』って言ってた。傍から見ててもそう思えたよね。感情がゲームプレイに表れてた。僕はIn-Game Body Language (ゲーム内ボディランゲージ)っていう表現を使ってるんだ。ゲームプレイを通して感情の変化を読み合うのが格闘ゲームではすごく重要なんだよね。フィリピーノマンがあそこでゲージを使い果たしたのも大きなサインだったと思う」 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8sKycQ5kaU&list=PLnJYUs2wpsOJfLYEQMioknlAkZMHJA3VG&index=8
・SnakeEyez はプールの決勝でNando に負けてルーザーズ落ち。Nando はEX Qボム>Qボムというコンボを決めて大逆転。UD「ボタンを3つ押してためなきゃいけないからめったに見ないコンボだよね。Nando は体力を大きくリードされて追い詰められたから、思い切ってボタンを3つためて逆転を狙ったのは賢い選択だったね」https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOTucE4-7SM
・フィリピーノマンも一回戦でルーザーズ落ちだった。
・Top 8 に入らなかった強豪プレイヤーも多数。ももち、マゴ、ふーど、ナックルドゥー、ダイミニオン、Jace the Ace、PRログ、シンチェイン、フーリオ、ケルビン、XSK サムライ、801ストライダー、BJ Unchained など
・9位に入ったメキシコ出身の8ガード。
・Top 8 の半分はアメリカ勢だったことを喜ぶ声も(全員ルーザーズだったが…)。
・ウル4は格闘ゲーム史上最も優勝するのが難しいゲームになっている。トッププレイヤーの数が非常に多く誰が優勝してもおかしくない。このような状況はとても素晴らしいことだ。JC「それとは逆に、常に少数の決まったプレイヤーがトップに君臨するスマブラのようなゲームもあって、それはそれでスター選手を応援しやすいからいいことじゃないかなって思う」。UD「僕は誰が上位に入るかわからないほうが面白いって思うけどね」

★ブラジルゲームショーのウル4の結果
http://shoryuken.com/2015/10/12/capcom-pro-tour-brazil-streaming-live-from-sao-paulo-brazil/
・ぺぺだいはガイル使いのGuiller とハカン使いのCaju に負けてTop 8 に入れなかった。UD「僕は両方の試合を見たけど、ぺぺだいはコンボをミスったりしてて調子が悪かったように見えたな」
・JC「Caju は勝てる試合を逃してた。バイソンのダッシュパンチをガードしてウルコンが使える場面で確反を逃してたよ」。UD「ウルコンの代わりにEX コマ投げが出てたから入力をミスったんだろうね」
・ウル4のテクニックに関する情報は殆どが英語で書かれているため、ブラジルのプレイヤーにとってはアクセスできる情報が限られているようだ。
・優勝はKeoma アベル。JC「Keoma は何年も前からずっと強いって言われてたプレイヤーで、今回やっと陽の目を見ることになったね。今回僕も彼の試合を見て、どうしてそんなに強いって言われてたのかやっとわかったよ。『Keoma はカプコンカップでみんなを驚かせるだろう』って誰かが言っててさ、でもすでにKeoma の強さはわかったから驚くに値しないよね。他のアベル使いが誰もやってないプレイをしてたよ」。UD「EXチェンジオブディレクションからウルコンにそのまま繋げたりね。コンボになるのは知ってたけど、最後に見たのがいつなのか思い出せないな。Koma は2ー3回やってたよね。反応が難しい前中K カウンターヒットからのコンボもすごく正確に決めてた。間合い取りや攻めの多様さもすごかった。感服だよ」。
・JC「ハイタニはアベル対策ができてなかったのかな。『ルーファスの動きがアベル戦用じゃない』って言ってるツイートも目にしたけど」。JC「ハイタニは志郎アベルとたくさん対戦してると思うけんだけどな」
・JC「Keoma がカプコンカップに出場することになって本当に嬉しいよ。去年はChuchu やValmaster があんまり振るわなかったけど、今年はKeoma に活躍してほしいな」。(32人の中で8人は一勝もせずに敗退する)UD「Keoma がその一人になるとは思えないな」
・(Keomaがチャットに登場?Keoma曰く)「ハイタニは震えていた(緊張で?)。プレイヤーがあんな風に震えるのを今まで見たことがない」。JC「興味深いね。アウェイの洗礼を受けたのかな。ブラジルの観客の盛り上がりは尋常じゃなかったからね」。UD「それに比べてSCR の観客はまるでみんな寝てるみたいだったよね」。JC「…(ため息)」
・UD「ぺぺだいはナイスガイだし大好きなプレイヤーだけど、ブラジル人がブラジル大会の代表になったことは本当に嬉しいよ」

★その他の注目トピック
・SCR で二人がプレイしたスト5のキャラクターについて(冒頭)
・今週末の注目のイベント、CEOtaku、超百鬼秋杯など
・フィリピーノマンのチームタグYPがSCRの配信で表示されなかったことについて(番組後半)

2015年9月29日火曜日

Tuesday Season 4 Episode 33

★TGS の話
・去年のTGS ではぺぺだいが衝撃的な優勝を飾った。その後ぺぺだいは世界中で活躍。TOPANGA B League にも選ばれた。
・去年はシングルエリミネーションだったが、今年はダブルエリミネーション。64人とういう制限があったが一回戦からグランドファイナル級の対戦が目白押しだった。「予想通りすごく面白くて盛り上がったイベントだった」とUD。
・優勝は、Dashio。コメンタリーのK-Brad は「ダショー!(DaShow!)」と叫んで大いに盛り上がっていた。
・マリオメーカーでステージを作る様子を配信しながらTGS を見ていたJC。
・33位に、梅原、SnakeEyez などの面々。SnakeEyez はaiai とInco に負けた。「ルーファス対ザンギは、スパ2X のバイソン対ダルシムみたいな、どっちのプレイヤーからも嫌われてる組み合わせでさ、結局は5分5分なんじゃないかな」とJC。
・Dashio はメジャー大会で優勝するのは初めてだが、スト4の初期の頃から強かったプレイヤー。間合い取り、攻めの選択肢の多さ、テクニックの正確さと、どれをとっても質の高いプレイをする。セスは弱キャラではないが以前ほどクレイジーな戦い方はできなくなったので、勝敗はプレイヤーの力量に大きく関わってくる。プーンコはセスが尖らなくなったせいで逆にプレイヤー性能があがったと言っていいだろう。Dashio はTOPANGA A League や闘劇SBO でも活躍したことがある。
・「去年のぺぺだいのようにr/Kappa がDashio をスポンサーすると思う?」というJC の質問に、「セス使いがフォルテ使いと同様に扱われるかはわからないけど、もし実現したら最高だね。以前はプーンコがセスで活躍してr/Kappa のサポートを受けてたけど、セスというキャラクターではなくプーンコのパフォーマンスがウケたからだと思うんだ」とUD。
・Dashio はカプコンカップ本戦に出場決定。本戦を盛り上げるダークホースになるだろう。
・UD「ところでNemo の話だけど、Nemo は全然ガードしないんだよ。コメンタリーで誰かがNemo はガードしないって言っててさ、僕はNemo がどれくらいガードするか注意して見てたんだ。その後の3ラウンドのうち、Nemo がガードしたのはたったの一回、さくらのEX 咲桜拳をガードしたときだけだった」。JC「ガードしなきゃいけない状況にめったにならないんじゃないかな」。UD「それもそうだけど、起き上がりにも立ち小K出したりEXコロコロやEXデルタで飛び回ったりしてたしね」。JC「ロレントってキャラはNemo のスタイルにぴったりだね。スト5のラシードが発表されたときは、『使いたいキャラが見つかった』って言ってたんだって。今から恐ろしい限りだよ」。
・素晴らしいトーナメントを成功させた、マッドキャッツのチームとコメンタリー。UD「K-Brad のコメンタリーは好きだけど、Zhi とは相性が良くないと思う。僕はK-Brad にDM で『Zhi のペースに巻き込まれるな』って言ったんだよ。その後は少し良くなったけど。」



2015年8月27日木曜日

Tuesday S4 Ep25 Post Evo 2015 Show


★EVO の結果
http://shoryuken.com/2015/07/19/evo-2015-day-1-results-the-largest-fighting-game-tournament-in-the-world/

★ペルソナ
・UD はグランドファイナルだけ見た。
・一部の日本人プレイヤーはソウジ(CEO 優勝)が優勝しなかったのは以外という声も。
・JC「Top 8 に欠けているものは?」UD「日本人じゃないプレイヤー」。CEO ではバナナケンがソウジを破って優勝したためアメリカ勢に期待が高まっていた。JC「かずのこもアメリカのペルソナはレベルが高いって言ってたしね。GGXrdは『別に』って言ってたけどw」
・日本ではペルソナは最新アップデートされているがEVO で使われたのはその前のバージョン。その理由はアメリカにチャンスを与えたかったから。

★鉄拳7
・7位のJimmy Tran は様々な名前を持っている(プレイするゲームごとに変えている?)。
・鉄拳の見た目の演出(スローモーションなど)を絶賛する2人。鉄拳のガチ勢はあまり演出に興味がないだろうが、見た目が楽しければ観戦するプレイヤーが増え、結果的に人気がでる。
・鉄拳7はアメリカではリリースされていないにもかかわらず、Top 8 に入ったJimmy Tran
・これからの鉄拳に期待するJC。Iron Fist Tournament の開催。カプコンカップがここまで大きくなったのも、25周年大会や一昨年と去年のカプコンカップを踏まえてのこと。大会の規模は時間をかけて少しずつ大きくしていけばいい。

★キラーインスティンクト
(割愛)

★GGXrd
・Top 8 に入ったZidane はFAB を倒した。その試合の動画も残っている。JC「みんな、グランドファイナルはオガワ対FAB だって予想してたんだよ」。UD「そうなったら僕としては最高だったけどね」。GG は一番日本人の参加率が最も高かったゲームであることを考えると、Zidane の検討は素晴らしい。
・ElvenShadow やKidViper など、惜しくもTop 8 入りを果たせなかったアメリカの有力プレイヤー。ハセガワは9位。かずのこは、なんとTop 32 ランク外(Zindane に負けて敗退)。
・朝食にマフィンを買ったため「ヲシゲのガッツポーズ」をギリギリで見逃したUD。JC は見た。一連の流れをカメラに収めたスタッフの素晴らしいカメラワーク(プレイヤーの表情とゲーム画面を切り替えるタイミングなど)。
・オガワに賞賛を送るUD「相手がスコアを間違えたからって全く容赦しなかったのは素晴らしい判断だね。血迷った相手のためにわざわざゲームを中断して自分が負けるリスクを追う必要は全くないからね。コンボの選択も全く的確だったし」。パーフェクトで勝負を終えたあとステージ上で派手なパフォーマンスをしたオガワに大喜びのJC。
・UDはGG をプレイしないが観戦するのは大好き。

★スマブラ4
・土曜日の正午から決勝が行われた。スケジュール的には運が悪かった。
・9位のStatic Manny はUD のお気に入りプレイヤー。「ソニックでずっと逃げまわるスタイルなんだけど、敗退したときはタイムアップで負けたんだよ。策士策に溺れるだよね。みんな大喜びだったけど僕はひとり悲しかったよ」
・優勝は予想通りZero。スマブラ4で連勝記録がとまらない。格闘ゲームの歴史上こんなに連勝しているのは他に例がない。インジャスティスでもSonic Fox が連勝を続けているが、インジャスティスはスマブラ4よりもずっとプレイヤーの数が少ない。
・Abadango 対Esam の話。JC「Abadango のパックマンが空中からステージに戻ろうとしたときを狙って、Esam のピカチューが横に突進する技を出すために電気をためてたんだ。それを開放した瞬間、後ろの放水管から水が出てきて勢い余ってノックアウトされちゃったんだよ。スマブラで一番悲劇的なKO だったな。僕はパックマンを応援してたけど喜んでいいのかわかんなかったよ」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ope7uAHJ9nY
・何人かのプレイヤーと話したJC。カスタム使用可というルールは評判が良くない。カスタム技によって恩恵をうけるのは弱キャラよりもむしろ強キャラで、カスタム技によって逆にバランスが悪くなってしまう。JC「僕が聞いたのは、カスタム技が原因のひどい番狂わせはあまりなかった、でもカスタム技に慣れていないために実力を発揮できなくて負けてしまったプレイヤーもいたみたい。」。UD「D1は、カスタム技は悪くないって言ってた。カスタム技のおかげで守りより攻め重視の試合展開になってたんだって」

★MKX
(割愛)

★スマブラMelee
・「Mango とLeffen がTop 8 でルーザーズにいたこと自体が番狂わせだった。Melee はそれぐらい上位がいつも同じメンバーなんだよ。スマブラの参加人数の多さを考えるとトッププレイヤーの成績は信じられないぐらい安定しているよね」
・7位のアイスクライマーChuDat はEVO East の頃からプレイしている古株プレイヤー。
・Leffen をサムスで倒したPlup。ミサイルの使い方を絶賛する2人。
・ハングリーボックスは二年連続準優勝。
・Armada は初めてのEVO 優勝。
・ジグリーパフの守り重視のスタイルが大好きなUD「どのゲームでも守りのスタイルは嫌わられることが多いけど、この面白さがもっと理解されたらなって思うよ」。JC「せっかくの晴れ舞台で卑怯な戦い方をするな、なんていう声もあるけど、彼はEVO で優勝するために最善のプレイをしてるんだからね。僕はどんなスタイルのプレイでもいいと思うし、見てて面白いって思うな」
・Mew2King は出場しなかった。
・3位のPPMD は以前、「トーナメント楽しい。もっと参加したい」などとツイートしていた。
・マンゴは5位の賞品のメダルを受け取った瞬間、観客に向かってメダルを投げた。EVO の運営が怒る?その心配はないだろう。チームで戦うことの多いESports の中でも、個人戦が多い格闘ゲームに特徴的のものは「プレイヤーの個性」だ。各プレイヤーがそれぞれのやり方で個性を発揮して話題になることは全く間違っていない。

★アルカプ
・波乱のTop 8 。アメリカ人は3人。
・アメリカ人が優勝しなかったのは初めて。アルカプ神が揃ってTop 8 前に敗退。クロックワークやネモなど強豪プレイヤーも敗退した。
・クロックワークは毎度のように9位。同情するJC。
・EVOの前に「アルカプは多様なプレイヤーとキャラクターに注目」と言っていたホンゾゴンゾは正しかった。
・クリスG は日本のクロスとRFに破れ敗退。RF はクリスGと同じチームを使った。
・クリスG がRF に負けて敗退したときのリアクションを映した動画がある。JC「クリスGは負けたことですごく傷ついているみたい。ネットでは当然のようにそのことでからかわれてるけど、ひどい話だと思う。たしかにクリスGは以前は『EVO なんてどうでもいい』みたいな発言をして反感を買ってたこともあった。でもクリスG はずいぶん成長して変わったと思う。今回、彼がいかに真剣に戦って、そして負けたことでどれほど傷ついたか。それを見て僕は以前にもましてクリスGのファンになったよ」
・UD「KaneBlueriverが優勝したって本当に今でも信じられないよ。頭ではわかってるんだけど、『Kane が優勝したんだ』って自分に言い聞かせなきゃいけないぐらい、どうにも受け入れがたいことだな」。JC「Kaneに優勝してほしくなかったの?」。UD「その逆だよ。Kane が優勝してめちゃくちゃハッピーだよ。Kane ほどアルカプをやりこんだ努力家は他にいないからね。」
・UD「Kane が優勝したことにはたくさんの意味があるよ。アルカプはアメリカだけのゲームじゃないってこと。最強のキャラを使わなくても勝てるってこと(もしかしたら最強のキャラの認識が間違っているのかもしれない)。才能より努力がまさるということ。難易度が高いコンボを使わなくても勝てるということ(レイレイのセンチネルコンボは美しいけど難しすぎてできない。Kane のコンボなら僕にもできる)」
・JC「Kane のことを批判しているのは、自分の理想とするプレイスタイルじゃないから不満っていうのと、Kane に対して個人的に気にくわないことがあって嫌っているっていうのもあって、それってコミュニティーやゲームの内容にとっては関係ない話だからね。例えば『Kane は人に頼りすぎている』っていう批判がある。だけどKane がサポートを必要としていて、逆にKane をサポートしたい人がいる。そこで話は成立してるんだから、第三者がとやかくいうことじゃないのにね」。UD「僕にとってはどうでもいいことだな。とにかく僕が思うのはKane が優勝したことでアルカプは死んでなんかいないってことが証明されたってこと。それから僕が思ってたよりもアルカプはプレイしやすいってことかな。難しいコンボができない僕みたいなプレイヤーでも勝てるかもしれないっていうのは新しい発見だよ」
・Kane の優勝後にマイクを使わせるべきだったか?>他のゲームの優勝者にもマイクを使うことは許されなかった(優勝者がマイクを使えるというルールはない)ので、Kane にマイクを使わせなかった(ルールに例外を作らなかった)のは正解。でも「優勝者は(希望すれば)マイクを使ってステージでスピーチをすることができる」というルールがあれば理想的。
・アルカプはこれからどうなる?UD「プレイヤー人口は確実に少なくなってるけど、プレイの質は高くなっている。これはどんな格闘ゲームでもたどる道だし、だからといってアルカプは死んだなんてことにはならないよ。僕なんかEVO でスパIIX をプレイしたし、スパIIX の筐体には列ができていたよ。新規のプレイヤーだっていないわけじゃない」。JC「さっきの話みたいに、Kane が優勝したことで最強キャラの長いコンボを使わなくても勝てるってことが示されたから、これからも努力してレベルを上げようとするプレイヤーが現れるかもしれないね。アルカプが死んだって言われてるのは、他のゲームみたいにメーカーから賞金ボーナスが出ることがないからかもね。そのせいでアルカプをやめて他のゲームを始めようとするプレイヤーがいるのは仕方ないことかな。プレイヤー人口が少なくなっても、観戦して最高に盛り上がるゲームなのは間違いないよ」
・ジャスティンはKaneBlueriver 戦ではコンボミスが目立った。再戦したら違う結果になっていたかもしれない。しかしそのことによってKane の優勝の価値が下がるわけでもない。Kane は世界一厳しいトーナメントを制したのだ。
・メキシコと日本のアルカプシーンにも賞賛のShoutout
・Persia がTop 8 のコメンタリーを担当したことを喜ぶJC。Persia はアルカプのコミュニティで最重要人物の一人である。UD「僕のいとこの友達がEVO のスマブラを見ててさ、そのあとアルカプでPersia がコメンタリーをしているのが目にとまって、アルカプも続けて見たんだって。Persia のおかげでアルカプに興味を持つ人って意外に多いかもね」。JC「Persia がコメンタリーをやって一番よくある反応は『アルカプのコメンタリーなのに情報量が多いの?』ていうのでさ。パートナーのヤイプスは盛り上がるコメンタリーをして、Persia は情報量が多いコメンタリーをするからいいコンビネーションだよね。アルカプは特に『頭を使わなくても勝てるゲーム』って思われることが多いから、分析的なコメンタリーをすることには大きな意味があるよ」
★ウル4
・2200人以上の参加者。史上最大の格闘ゲームトーナメントとなった。一箇所で行われたイベントとしては史上最大のゲーム大会でもあっただろう。
・Top32 のプレイヤーを読み上げるUD。Top 8 外に過去のEVO チャンピオンやファイナリストが続々登場。UD「25位から9位までのプレイヤーをごちゃ混ぜにしてランダムに並び替えてもまったく遜色ない結果になっただろうね」。JC「9位から13位までのプレイヤー8人をTop 8のつもりで読み上げてごらんよ。全然あり得る結果だよ」。
・ウル4の結果は誰にも予想がつかなかった。UD「でもTop 8 の結果は全く順当だね。ももちの優勝っていうのはあまりにも順当すぎて逆に予想が難しかったよ。ももちは世界一のプレイヤーだと思うけど、あまりにもそのままの結果だからね。僕が『優勝はももち』って予想してたら『ぜんぜん考えてないだろ』って言われてただろうね」。JC「Top 8 のメンバーは本当に合理的な結果だよね。アメリカ人は毎年2人って決まっててさ、アメリカ人で最強を2人選べって言われたらそりゃPR ログとナックルドゥーに決まってるよ。Top8でただ一人意外だったのはaiai だね。みんな初めてaiai の名前を聞いたっていう人が多かったんじゃないかな」。UD「僕は以前aiai のジュリを見たことがあったよ。でもTop 5 に入ると思ってたかって言われたら全く思わなかったな」。JC「僕が以前一度だけaiai の名前を聞いたのは、梅原が『一番怖いのはaiai』って言ってたからなんだ。実際、梅原はaiai に負けてルーザーズに落ちたんだよ。そのときの動画も残ってるけど、梅原の予想は正しかったんだよね」
・NEMO のTop 8 入りも順当だろう。

10/10/2015 追記

・Top 8 の試合の中には、スト4の歴史上最もストレスフルな試合とも思えるものもあった。
・ゲーマービーのプレイスタイルは非常にじっくり戦うスタイルで神経がすり減らされるような戦いだった。
・グランドファイナル最後の試合で起こったポーズのアクシデントは、どちらのプレイヤーにとっても不運なことだった。ポーズによって勝ったとしても本当の勝ちではないし、ポーズで負ければ自分を責めないプレイヤーはいないだろう。ポーズが起こったことでゲーマービーの優勝への勢いが止まってしまったとしたら残念なことだ。
・ももちは「優勝した瞬間も素直に喜びを表現していいのかわからなかった」とコメントしていた。それぐらいどちらが勝ってもおかしくない息詰まる展開だった。
・ももち、ゲーマービー、インフィルトレーションの三者の間の試合はどれもウル4の歴史に残る名試合だった。このような試合が生まれるウル4というゲームは実によくできた名作と言っていいだろう。起き攻めループやセットプレイが強くオプションセレクトもたくさんあるが、どんなゲームにも固有の問題は必ずあり完璧なゲームなどない。
・EVO 代表のMr. Wizard はEVO の前に「ウル4がEVO に選ばれるのは今年が最後」と言っていた。もしそれが本当なら、EVO 最後の年にふさわしい素晴らしいトーナメントだった。Top 8 のキャラも実に多彩だった。「登場キャラの半分はインフィルトレーションが使ってたけどねw」とJC。
・インフィルトレーションはゲーマービーのエレナに弾を打ちすぎ、ヒーリングを何度も使われてしまった。JC「守る春麗に対してエレナでヒーリングを多用する戦法はとても賢い選択だと思う。観客の中にはこの戦法が退屈だって言ってブーイングをしてる人もいた。僕も格闘ゲームを始めてすぐの頃は相手が待ってばっかりだと腹をたててたけど、格闘ゲームの深さやプレイスタイルの多様性を理解してからは思わなくなったな。相手に守りの戦法をさせてるのは自分なのであって、自分が攻めきれてない落ち度は自分にあるんだってね。インフィルトレーションはあんなにたくさん弾を打つべきじゃないってコメンタリーでも言ったんだけど」。UD「インフィルトレーションがエレナに春麗を被せたのは、春麗の弾に対してエレナはスライディングを簡単に使えないからだと思う。それに対してゲーマービーはヒーリングを多用する戦法で逆に被せてきた。インフィルトレーションはその戦法には対応できてなかったように見えるけど、僕は何か勘違いしてるのかな。インフィルトレーションはもっと賢いプレイヤーだと思うんだけどね」
・純粋なジュリ使いがTop 8 に入ったことを賞賛するUD。
・JC「PR ログは自分のパフォーマンスにすごく満足してたみたい。トーナメントのあとPR ログと話したとき、『これからどんどん上り調子だよね』って言ったら本人も『間違いないよ』ってさ。それを聞いて僕も大喜びだよ。引退も撤回したし、これからのPR ログの活躍が楽しみだな」
・UD「それからナックルドゥーもよくやったよね。彼はEVO の前に車で事故にあって心配してたんだけどプレイの調子は落ちてないみたい。SXSW で全く勝てなかったときはすごく落ち込んでたけど、完全復活だね」
・UD「僕がものすごく感銘を受けたプレイヤーの話をしていいかな。指喧の三太郎サガットなんだ。Kim1234 が『三太郎はサンフォードケリーに磨きがかかったようなプレイヤー』って言ってたけど、まさにそのとおりだと思う。鋭い読みを重視するスタイルだけ ど間合い取りも絶妙に上手いんだ。801ストライダーとの試合で見せた、近距離で小足からの移動アパカっていう連携にはびっくりしたよ。セビキャンするゲージもない状態でやったんだよ。アパカがヒットして試合終了さ。801ストライダーも完全に面食らって身動きできなくなってた。読みが外れれば反撃されて400以上のダメージは免れなかっただろうけど、その読みを通すのが三太郎なんだな。ルフィーとの10先も10-6で制した。あれを見たらローズ対サガットの相性を考えなおさなきゃなと思ったな。サガットっていう足の重いキャラで巧みに間合いをとってルフィーのスライディングをスカしたり立ち中Kやしゃがみ大Pを当ててた。」
・JC「ウル4で語りたい試合は本当にたくさんあってさ、梅原対ゲーマービーもその1つ。梅原がマッチポイントのラウンドで、ゲーマービーには体力がほとんどなくて梅原には40%ぐらい残ってた。ゲーマービーの強リンクスを梅原がガードしたんだけど、中足で反撃できるはずのタイミングを梅原がミスってゲーマービーがダメ元で入力してたウルコンがヒットして大逆転だよ。その次のラウンドもゲーマービーが勝って梅原は敗退。あそこでミスってなかったら梅原がTop 8 に入ってたんだよね。そしたらゲーマービーがTop 8 でみせたドラマチックな展開もなかったことになる。今年のEVOのウル4トーナメントは本当によく書き込まれた映画を見てるみたいだったよ。ゲーマービーが勢いにのって優勝すると思ったら例のポーズが起きてさ、最後はゲーマービーの婚約者がステージでゲーマービーと抱き合ったりして、まるでロッキーとエイドリアンみたいだった。Top 8 より以前の試合でも、どの試合で誰が敗退しても悲しい組み合わせばっかりだったよ」
・UD「僕が一番印象に残ってる試合は、Alex Valle対ボンちゃん」。JC「僕はあの試合のせいで喉を壊したよ」。UD「僕はあの試合の後、会場を離れたんだ。このままずっとここにいたら喉が壊れると思ってね。あのあともコメンタリーの仕事があったからまずいと思ったんだ。一旦会場を離れて一呼吸入れなきゃならなかった。それぐらい興奮したよ。アレックスのプレイはすごかった。それにしても日本のプレイヤーはヒューゴ対策をあまり知らないんじゃないかと思う。日本にはストーム久保っていう強いヒューゴ使いもいるし、もっと知られててもいいはずだと思うけど」。JC「そういえばときどもヨーロッパでもInflexions のヒューゴにしてやられてたね。CEO でもももちがアルカードのヒューゴに負けてた」。
・UD「ナックルドゥー対ふーどの試合も印象に残ってるよ。ナックルドゥーに体力がほとんどない状態でふーどが詐欺飛びからの大Pキャンセル烈火で削りに来た。そこにナックルドゥーはディレイスタンディングからのサマソで切り返した。ふーどがそのあとも削りに来たところに、ナックルドゥーの大P二発のコンボ、そして立て続けの裏拳がヒットしてKOだよ。まさにアメリカっていう感じの終わり方だった」。JC「フィスト・オブ・ジャスティスだねw」。UD「ふーどがあんな風に勝ちを急ぐのは珍しいね。しかもそれで敗退だからね」。JC「ナックルドゥー自身も驚いてたみたい」。UD「みんな驚いてたよ」

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